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Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 75	Posted - 2015.06.06 17:08:01 - [1] - Quote Minmatar ships in general are not every strong in the current meta. most of them are not even that fast anymore, horrid agility, their best weapon system is missiles ATM which is also a bottom of the barrel weapon system, ACs are confused, Arty unfittable, slot layout counter intuitive to to their strengths, which there are not many of ATM. some things that would make them more viable 1- the weapon systems -- Arty -- all arty really needs is a sharp drop in fitting reqs, it's already has the worst damage output of any weapon system ontop the worst tracking of any turret and poor projection. It shouldn't also be unfittable especially when the dominant weapon system in the game has no fitting reqs WHATSOEVER. -- ACs -- honestly either they should just trade rolls with blasters, they have no optimal so the closer you get the harder they hit period, and they'd actually fair well in scram range. where they can make use of cap independent DPS and tank, utility highs, tracking ammo, and actually have the speed to make good use of a point blank weapon system. and if blasters had some projection gallente blaster fans could stop crying about being kited by just about everything. or give them an optimal so their damage output isn't so dismal at their most effective range. 2- undergunned and under bonused hulls. namely the Ruppy, Stabber, Cane, and Pest. Most these ships get 2 Damage out put bonuses yet still deal worst in class DPS. the ruppy, stabber, and pest are -1 gun for some reason. the stabber gets a projection bonus but is down one gun and gets 2 utility highs, uuuuuuumm so with projection you never want to be in scram range and really the stabber does not have to cap or grid to properly fit out dual mid nuets. any ship with 5 tracking and RoF should be swapped with 10 damage and 7.5 tracking. good for arty and scram range and the aforementioned DPS and tracking buffed ACs 3- the missile line what if minmatar had two attack ships in every line both being their gun boats, mostly because missiles ships DO NOT NEED SPEED. so swap the phoons stats with the mael and mirror that with the rest of the line. so why not make the missile line the tanky monsters and make their gun boats the fast attack ships. just some thoughts, this would avoid minmatar ships becoming the kiting monsters everyone hated, and let them actually align their strengths instead of having them fighting each other.
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 75	Posted - 2015.06.06 22:29:29 - [2] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: Just a few words 280mm; 220mm; 1400mm - works well still 10/7.5 bonuses given to T1 hulls sound a lil bit op. It's better to adjudt those stats at turrets and ammo vs hulls. The missele line was discussed at thread where pilots asked for missiing faction - minmaldari or calmatar whatever you like. why? that'd be a straight DPS nerf in exchange for volley and application. hell 5 damage and 7.5 tracking would be fine if the pest, sabber and ruppy, were not undergunned.
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 76	Posted - 2015.06.09 17:30:00 - [3] - Quote Stitch Kaneland wrote: The pest..idk.. the nado does 85% of what the pest does for pretty much half the cost. If the pest had more speed..nano pests could make a return.. which i didnt think they were that OP to start with. not exactly true, a tornado is at serious risk of being killed by an Ibis, something all ABCs that aren't the talos share. Honestly I'm not sure why these ships were nerfed to being with. the pest dose have dual heavy nuets and about 100K EHP over the nado, as intended. and I agree I never saw how the nano pest was OP seeing how it still did meh damage, had a meh tank, and it's a battleship....... you're not sig tanking anything. Stitch Kaneland wrote: He did state that the hype has 2 less guns but still does more dps than a mael. Reading comprehension is hard. not to mention the hype is faster for some reason.
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 76	Posted - 2015.06.09 20:15:06 - [4] - Quote Aza Ebanu wrote: [quote=To mare] CCP needs to hire you right away! Either make those changes or give Matari ships proper bonuses and grid to fit like other ships. actually the sad thing is Matari ships have the second best grids in the game, Arty just takes up so much grid it require plants and fitting mods on half the gun boats the other half just straight up cant fit arty. Not to mention the absolute lack of mid slots, I'm looking at you Matari HACs
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 76	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:55:22 - [5] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: Tusker Crazinski wrote: Aza Ebanu wrote: [quote=To mare] CCP needs to hire you right away! Either make those changes or give Matari ships proper bonuses and grid to fit like other ships. Not to mention the absolute lack of mid slots, I'm looking at you Matari HACs Quote for the absolute truth. CCP1: hey gais, we should give the vaga a shield boost bonus CCP2: but it only has 4 mids, what do? CCP1: well we could move the 5th low to a mid CCP2: nah, lets not trolololwinmatarwtfpwnzorbbq oh let's not even talk about T2 shield resist 3 mid munin. really minmatar get as many mids as ammarians, less mids then the ******* armor tanked gallente, and every one gets less mids than the caldari line.
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 79	Posted - 2015.06.14 06:19:17 - [6] - Quote also pointing out my stabber gets more DPS out of the un bonused RLMLs and Warrior IIs, so I'm going to try DDAs and BCSes in my lows.
Tusker Crazinski Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels 80	Posted - 2015.06.16 23:10:33 - [7] - Quote addition to the OP Quote: also the gallente and matari PG / CPU profile seems a bit backwards. the way the PG and CPU profile works with now Ammar - best grids worst CPU--- armor tanked, reasonable Minmatar- second best grids second worst CPU --- shield tanked, WTF Gallente- second worst comps second best CPU ---- armor tanked, WTF Caldari- worst grids, best comps --- makes perfect sense. I think Minmatar and gallente should switch PG and CPU profiles assuming the grid requirements for arty become something in the realm of sanity.

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